Speaker 1: 0:05

Carrie, thank you so much for joining me on. We Woke Up Like this today. I'm so excited to have you, and we're going to kick off this conversation by asking you what does liberation mean to you and why is this a topic that you were like? Yes, I want to get on your podcast and have a conversation around this.

Speaker 2: 0:24

Well, joya, honestly, it started with me stepping into my freedom and my liberation. I was under such a constraint I guess the word is with other people's opinions, ideas, approvals I didn't have my own thought, I couldn't even think my own thought. And then, growing up in a family that was supportive but wanted me to follow the normal patterns, the normal like air quote patterns of life, I just always felt very contracted, very constricted, very constrained and felt like I had to put everything into a box and make it look like what it should look like and do what I should do. And once I recognized that, I have a brain, I have my own thoughts, I have my own dreams, I have my own visions and I stepped out of that lane that I was in. That's when liberation happened, that's when life happened, that's when I blossomed and I opened myself up to a world of opportunity and possibility that I didn't even know existed. I thought the only opportunity and possibility was what other people were telling me that I should be doing.

Speaker 1: 1:29

How old were you when you had this epiphany and you decided to take control of your own life and your thoughts?

Speaker 2: 1:36

It was. I was 54 years old.

Speaker 1: 1:40

Yeah, Wow, that's amazing. So did you. That must have shaken up, or shook up your family, your, your married, your spouse. Like what was that? Like when you just all of a sudden were like I'm Carrie, it was. It was really quite a.

Speaker 2: 1:54

it was, quite it was liberation for everyone. Quite, quite honestly, you know, I was living in contraction the entire time. I mean my I, you know, and everybody had not I shouldn't say everybody, but I had a time in my life when I knew that things were not the way they were supposed to be. This was not what I, the life that I wanted to live, you know I was. My son had just suffered from major depression and and was having epileptic seizures. My daughter was riddled with anxiety at college. My marriage was crumbling.

Speaker 2: 2:27

I hated I don't even like to use that word, but I hated the life that I was living, the career that I had. I was drinking a bottle of wine every night just to drown out all the things that were happening in my life. And so when I did step into who I really am and really start living the true, authentic self of Carrie, everything changed for the better. It was such an amazing experience to finally be free of all those things that were causing so many awful things happening. And so now you know now I mean I we just celebrated our 35th wedding anniversary. My, my son, is married to the love of his life and his health is wonderful. My daughter just gave us our second grandbaby and she's doing wonderful. My career is exploded and I'm so blessed and honored to be on this journey with other women and um. But the opportunities, the possibilities opened up for me and my awareness was that, yes, I can be who I really am. Listen to that true, authentic self inside of me.

Speaker 1: 3:33

Were there conscious thoughts that you were just feeling like I'm not happy? Was it more energetic that was driving you, that drove you to this point where you're like I have to change what's happening here? I think it was a little of everything quite honestly over time, over time.

Speaker 2: 3:56

Yeah, you know I. I mean, I can remember when I was and I share this often but when I was 16 years old, sitting at the dinner table getting ready to go to college, and my dad said what do you want to do when you grow up? And I said I want to have an impact in this world. I want to be able to. You know, I was very much into mixed media arts. I want to be an artist and I want to have an impact. And my dad said but you're not going to make a lot of money doing that, carrie, right, and so it so. So unlived life right, it started, I started to push it down and what happens is unlived life is kind of like a beach ball underwater it doesn't stay there Such a perfect analogy.

Speaker 1: 4:39

Yeah, that pressure starts to build in your own life, right?

Speaker 2: 4:43

Yes, and, and I can remember, you know, fast forward, you know several years, but I can remember, you know, driving back to school to take something to my children that they had left at home for about the fifth time in a week. And I can remember pulling over the side of the road and saying what am I doing here? I don't even know who I am. I'm now as much as I love my children. They are running my life. I don't know who I am here, right, and so it was just, it was a gradual thing. But then, finally, you know, I came to a point in my life where I was like, listen, I, I have, there's something more for me here, you know, there's something more than than just being somebody else's someone or listening to what other people are telling me that I should be doing.

Speaker 2: 5:29

And it came to a head. I was in corporate America. I was from the outside I looked like I was having success, but on the inside I was absolutely just dying. And there was a pivotal moment when I had invested our entire life savings in a business that I thought was going to be the next greatest thing for me, because I was always trying to fit a square peg into a round hole and there was just a moment in time where I said I'm not doing this anymore. I'm going after what Carrie wants, what Carrie needs, what Carrie is. And here I am and it's brought me to where I am today and I absolutely love me. I love my life, I love the freedom that I have, I love the clients that I support.

Speaker 1: 6:10

Oh, making an impact in the world. Yes, yes, yeah, 16 year old Carrie is so proud of you. She's like, yes, we did it.

Speaker 2: 6:19

That's right, and and this year I have cleared space in my office and I'm going back to art Yay.

Speaker 1: 6:27

Gosh good for you. That feels so good. It really I'm just, I'm thrilled. Oh my gosh, keri, I love that for you. I'm super curious about you.

Speaker 1: 6:37

Know, you had such an established life, I mean, investing everything in this other business, and now you're doing this other business.

Speaker 1: 6:44

What were were the like for women listening who are and I know that so many women relate to this because, especially, you know, when we're younger, this is such a common story that I hear too with you know, well, that's great that you want to do that, but that's not going to make you a lot of money, or that's great that you want to do that, but that's not the path that we set out for you.

Speaker 1: 7:01

And then lots of women take this path and then they get married, and then they have children, and then they have a career and they're doing all these things that they do get lost in there and it does build up as like a feeling of pressure. So what was that like for you? What were your, you know, like going back to women who are listening, when you decided, like this is that's it, I just cannot, I cannot do this anymore. What? What were the steps that you took to begin to even discover? Did you know what you wanted to do next, or how did you go about discovering what it was that you even wanted to do in the first place?

Speaker 2: 7:34

Well, I, first of all, I want to, I want to just say that you know, it was more about my career. You know, I love. I love being a mother, I love being a wife. You know that that was absolutely part of my, my dream and my plan, you know, even as a 16 year old girl, right, but it was more of my expression of me. You know, with my children I was very authentic, you know. I mean, I, I always supported them in doing what they wanted to do, and I and I didn't. I didn't follow the patterns that had happened in my family. I wanted them to go and do and be and have and give and whatever, whatever they would love, what, what really happened was this? The corporate structure. Right, the corporate structure really was.

Speaker 2: 8:18

You know, my dad, when we were sitting there having dinner that night and he said, what do you want to do with your life? And I said I, you know, wanted to make an impact. I want to do smart and and and he, he, you know, out of love and protection, he said to me Carrie, you're not going to make a lot of money doing that, but really, julia, what I heard him say was you'll never have success, going after your dream. And so I made that decision when I was 16 years old, that my dream wasn't worth it, that it wasn't worthy of being fully expressed. What happened over time? Like that beach ball, I continued to push life down, continued to push life down, listening to the opinion and approval of other people, until I reached a point in my life where I started talking to other women and realizing they've done the same thing. They're looking for something more. There's something more out there in life that's calling them, and I decided to take a stand for them.

Speaker 2: 9:09

But in reality, I was taking a stand for me, right, and I would poke my head up. You know, it was kind of like poking my head up out of a foxhole and looking around and wondering is there anybody else out there? And so what that looked like was when I walked away from my company that my husband and I were actually purchasing. I invested our entire life savings into this company that I thought was going to be. Listen to everybody else tell me it was a wonderful experience, you know, wonderful thing. And I followed the shiny bouncy ball when I walked away. You know, it was super scary. I mean, I didn't know if I was going to get my money back. I didn't know if my husband was going to divorce me at that moment, because I made a decision pretty much in the moment that I was leaving, wow, and I didn't know what it was going to look like. I didn't know what my next step was. I just knew that life was calling me into something more.

Speaker 1: 10:04

So when you said yes, is that when it just started showing up for you it?

Speaker 2: 10:07

did. It did Because what I know for sure is, when you make a decision, the universe starts to conspire with you and decision that you make Right. And so I knew that there was something more calling me. And so I just stand and you know I was scared. I was, you know. I mean I think I cried myself to sleep several nights because I thought what my paradigms are starting to get to me. What did I do? Oh, my gosh. But I just knew that there was something more. So what I started to do then was I researched, getting myself a life coach, because I had done therapy. Therapy didn't really really hit the target for me I'm not bashing it, but it just wasn't for me.

Speaker 2: 10:48

And I started looking for a life coach. And you know, beautiful social media, you're scrolling through and all of a sudden you get all these different things come up, right, and something came up with the Brave Thinking Institute with Mary Morrissey, with the Brave Thinking Institute, with Mary Morrissey, and then a friend of mine said, hey, you know, let's go down to this conference in LA and and check it out. And I was kind of kicking and screaming. I'm like I'm really. You know, that's not really something I want to do right now. But, joya, it was like again the universe was presenting things to me that just I couldn't resist.

Speaker 2: 11:25

I met Mary Morrissey in person. I fell in love with her. She's mentored me from day one, she's mentored by her personally and was asked to step into the coaching role. Amazing, when I was, when I was asked that question, it was like um, the Phoenix rising from the ashes. When the feet, when the phoenix is done with its life, it burns in fire, but then it rises again out of, in, creates new life, and I just felt like this is it, this is this is what I've been called to do.

Speaker 1: 12:04

And I had to go through all of those things to get to where I am today and it gave you so much understanding of the journey and women who are holding themselves back or stuff or sitting on that beach ball underwater, like I can't let this come up, I can't let this come up, that they. I just love good coaches and Mary Morrissey is just so beautiful. I didn't I actually didn't even know that you were a Mary Morrissey coach, so that's why I love having these conversations. Yes, how long have you been coaching with that organization or on your own, obviously, but trained and working with Mary? Yeah, so March it'll be five years. Wow, that's amazing. Congratulations, carrie. That's huge.

Speaker 2: 12:41

Thank you. Yeah, I'm really thrilled and it's been such a journey to get here, but, you know, honestly, it's been the most beautiful, looking back, that you know, I got to experience all of that in order to support my clients moving forward and I'm just so honored honestly honored to be on this journey with women. It's just incredible.

Speaker 1: 13:05

Well, yeah, and you can. You know, I think that's so important to. When you're working with a coach, I always look for, like, does this person understand me? Have they gone through life, Like they've actually lived life and have actually made those big leaps and those big changes themselves? And you have. So I think that is just so. That's really really remarkable, and I just really commend you on your courage to have. I mean, that takes a lot of courage to do what you did, thank you.

Speaker 2: 13:31

Yes, I mustered quite a bit, but you know there's it's always scary whenever you step into your greatness. You know, and fear will always be a companion, and I didn't know that at the time. I knew that it was going to be scary. I didn't know that I was actually stepping into a greater, freer, fuller expression of who I am. At the time I just knew that I couldn't do what I was doing anymore.

Speaker 1: 13:52

So yeah, and you're still continuing to become freer.

Speaker 2: 13:55

We've never have arrived, right, you know, we know that we're always growing, we're always learning, we're always evolving and and yeah, and that's that's what I love about life, right? Is that there's always more to learn. There's always. I was just down at Dream Builder Live this weekend with Mary and and the staff and constantly, you know, honing my skills but also growing my level of awareness. You know, there's just a deeper level and a deeper level. And so, yeah, I'm just, I love my life. In fact, I had a conversation with Mary this weekend and I said you know, mary, because she's very much about you know, a vision driven on life. And I even said to her you know, I love my life so much I can't see the next level vision. And she looked me square in the face, joy, and she said then you're not listening. And I thought, ok, there I go, another layer of awareness right, you know we get in those safety.

Speaker 1: 14:45

You know those safe spaces where we're like OK, I like this, I've made it here now. It's like resting on your laurels, right, it's like I've made it to where I am now and this is good, this is safe, I don't, I don't feel anything calling me now, exactly, I'm happy, I'm good. But then there's so much more, as you know, it's like you get called and called and called to make a bigger impact. If you're willing to say yes, then the universe is like hey, there, she's gonna say yes, come on, let's go.

Speaker 2: 15:11

Exactly, exactly, yeah, and I'm here and I and I had an amazing awakening this weekend on what my next level vision is. Do you care to share a?

Speaker 1: 15:22

little bit about the awakening process.

Speaker 2: 15:23

Yeah, well, you know so. So one of the things when Mary said that to me, I really took it to heart that I was not receptive. I was not being receptive, and so I just, I just made a pact with myself that you know, I'm here for me, I'm here, I'm here to to, to you know, really define and understand and receive what that next level vision is for me. And so I just, you know, the whole weekend stood in grateful expectation, knowing that it was coming, that there was something for me. And I'll tell you, joya, you know some people they get quiet whispers. I got a knock on the head.

Speaker 1: 16:00

Those are nice, because then you can't deny it.

Speaker 2: 16:03

There's no way. You cannot make this stuff up. So I'm really, you know. I want to take my spirituality even deeper. I want to have a clear path and understand even deeper. I want to have a clear path and understand, you know me on an even deeper level, but also my physicality. You know I'm 59 years old. I want you know there are little voices in my head saying but you're too old and you're losing your spark, and you know, blah, blah, blah, blah, all those things right.

Speaker 2: 16:32

So this weekend, jennifer Jimenez, who is Mary's daughter, she led us in a dance of release and it just flooded my body with little love bumps. I don't know what it was, but I just felt so wonderful and I was a volunteer, so I also got to be inside early and meet with the staff and all that. But anyhow, sunday morning we had a prayer circle and all the volunteers were in the circle and the staff and the faculty put their hands on all of us and they said a prayer over us. I turned around and Jennifer was the one that had her hand on my back and something came over me. I just felt the spirit move me and I gave her a big hug and I said I want to work with you, I want to know what you're doing and I want to get more in touch with my the wellbeing side of my being. You know the beingness and and and and.

Speaker 2: 17:30

She said when was the last she? She said when was the last time that you had that you went on a retreat, carrie for you, Because I host my own retreats and I started crying and I said it's been a long time. And she said it's time for you to fill your cup. Yeah, and for you to fill your cup and so that you can be a conduit of love for your clients. You know that you're basically practicing what you're preaching. I've been in a lot of kind of push, energy and masculine energy in the last couple months and my business is growing and it's wonderful and I love it. But there's a both sides right and and I kind of lost track of that. So so I signed up for her program and I'm moving forward with her Healthy, vibrant Women program and I'm really excited because there's a lot of parts to that that really interest me and will support my clients moving forward. It's absolutely level.

Speaker 1: 18:24

Yeah, yeah, that's beautiful Congratulations.

Speaker 2: 18:27

Thank you, thank you, yeah, I'm really excited. I'm excited to work with her and so many other little little synchronicities were happening that weekend around that that I just I couldn't. I just stepped in and said, yes, yeah, the door is clearly opened, come on through, yeah, I love that.

Speaker 1: 18:44

And then you never know what's going to happen, right? It's like when you said yes to your girlfriend to go down, to go to California, and then you're like, oh my gosh, so expanded. And then now you say yes to this and so expanded. And I know the same is true for me to carry that within the last year and a half it's been so much about embodiment, bringing it to the body, coming home in the body, feeling in the body, living in your body, and that's not easy work, especially when we're so mental if we're very mental people, which I am, and I can hear you are too that it makes it so hard to go in the body. And it's like the body, just like my feminine side is like I just want to flow and paint, go with the flow, and my masculine side is like we have stuff to do, exactly, exactly I get it.

Speaker 1: 19:30

Yeah, I just want to come in more in harmony, you know I want in an alignment with that and yes and I because I know we have both sides and I want to I want to really, you know, just just be with that and be in alignment with that and be able to be in flow with what is coming and what I get to do and not have to have it be such push energy, you know so yeah, and I know that that will happen for you, because that's so the energy I feel that's happening is all about that unit, that divine union that happens inside of us with our own toxic masculine push energy definitely the push energy and then the divine feminine that can be toxic femininity energy, that that's running us inside of ourselves, that we're not even aware that these patterns are running us, and so when you do unify those it's, it'll be so powerful for you, of course, and then boom for your clients.

Speaker 1: 20:25

I can't even imagine what's going to happen with what you'll bring forward for the women that you work with. Do you work with women?

Speaker 2: 20:32

Yes, I have worked with some men in the past. I have a client that's a man, that's a gentleman, right now. Yeah, you know it's it's. If they're in touch with their feminine side, then typically you know they're it's, they're open to it. It's not something that I really am going to pursue Because, quite frankly, it's a call out to men to step up and become coaches and it's a call out to men to step up and become coaches. Right, like we need more men coaches. Yeah, serve to have really good coaches. So you know, I've been talking to a few. I talked to a lot this weekend but yeah, it's a dire need.

Speaker 1: 21:10

Yeah, so men listening? If there's any men listening to this podcast, hear the call Please, I implore you. Or if you are a coach, but you're not men listening to this podcast.

Speaker 2: 21:15

hey, hear the call please, I implore you. Or if you are a coach but you're not coaching yet, you know, let's talk because you know there are men out there who are so deserving I mean, I believe every person should be coached but there are men there that are just so deserving of having a good, solid, strong, masculine feminine. You know coach. Yeah, it's sad, it's kind of you know, but it's kind of me. Stepping back, not coaching men is hope. I'm hoping that you know the energy will be felt and more will come around.

Speaker 1: 21:52

So, yeah, I think so. I see a little trend. I see that a trend in that in younger men I have found, for some reason, I've attracted like a little following of men who are all in their 30s and they're really interesting and they're very in touch with their feminine and their masculine. So I'm like, oh, this is an interesting energy I see coming online, which is really beautiful. Good yeah to see those changes happening. And so, carrie, if some someone's listening right now and she's like, oh my gosh, I relate to her.

Speaker 1: 22:20

I'm doing all the things I don't want to be doing, and I know I don't want to be doing this anymore, but I don't know what I do want to be doing what tips do you have for somebody who's in that phase of life, especially women, our age? I'm finding this a lot like this midlife or this three quarter life transformation where we're like, okay, the kids have, I'm an empty nester, I'm becoming a grandmother, I'm done doing this business, I'm done doing all of these things for everybody else. Who am I? What do I want? What would you say to that woman?

Speaker 2: 22:49

Well, the first thing I would say is listen to that voice. That voice is the voice of truth and if you're feeling that calling, there's always something more for all of us. Right. And so you know, we often don't listen to that voice of intuition, that voice of truth, right, calling us. I would say grow a relationship with that voice.

Speaker 2: 23:09

First of all, you know there's always I like to call it the messy middle. You know where you're going to feel some pain, you're going to feel some. Where you're going to feel some pain, you're going to feel some things, you're going to feel some fear, but do it afraid, do it anyway, because on the other side of that is pure joy. If someone would have said to me, you know, six or seven years ago, that I would be making more money than I've ever made in my life, traveling whenever I want to travel, enjoying a vacation home 2,400 miles away from my home, you know, celebrating women and being in, you know, in beautiful communities and all of these things, I would have laughed at them because I was so confined by the corporate life I could only take two weeks of vacation and I had to work Monday through Friday. You know all those things, and it was. It was scary and it was hard, but I did it, afraid and it was messy, you're right.

Speaker 2: 24:00

Like I didn't know where I was going. I didn't know what I was going to be doing. I just knew that there was something more for me and I not have to be perfect or figured out. Yes, exactly, you will figure it out if you really listen to that internal voice. And and and number one and Joy, I know you will agree with me on this is find a structure of support, a hundred percent. We are not meant to do life alone. Even in the Bible it says there were two or more gathered. There am I, there's energy, there's support in groups or in structures. And had I not, you know, gone to that event and said yes and stepped in, you know who knows what would have happened? I would have probably gone back to corporate America, because that's what I knew, that, even if it's just a phone call or, you know, I would love, I'd be honored to support any woman who is going through that right now.

Speaker 1: 25:04

Yeah, I could feel your heart in that. Like you really care to help women leap, take that leap.

Speaker 2: 25:09

It's like here I'll hold your hand while you leap over that big leap right there, absolutely you leap over that big leap right there, absolutely yeah, it's not about you know, it's just about you know my, my, my mission in this world is to raise the level of awareness, one woman at a time. And if it, if all it takes is just holding out a hand and saying, hey, I've got you. You know I, then so be it. But I know that there's so much more that that woman can do in this world when she has the support of others.

Speaker 1: 25:38

Oh my gosh. And I just saw in my mind's eye, when you said that, that the ripple effect of that if you're here, I'll hold your hand. Then she can now turn to the woman behind her and say, here, I'll take your hand, and so on and so forth, until we have this big chain of all these women just holding each other. It's that leap of life, because we're all. It is scary. It is so scary to take that leap Even when someone is holding your hand. I know that when I'm in the middle of a big leap, I'm leaping, but then in my mind I'm like in slow motion going. What the hell am I doing?

Speaker 2: 26:12

Of course, yeah, yeah, I mean it's, it's scary, you know. But again, and the other side of our comfort zone, there's where life is, that's where the magic happens, that's where the beauty is. You know, and and, and you know, I love the. I love the quote by Martin Luther King.

Speaker 1: 26:29

He says you know, take the step and the staircase, staircase will appear will appear and you know, I feel like fear and since you're in the world of spiritual coaching and you do this, I feel like fear is so irrational and it doesn't make any sense. I mean, unless, of course, you're actually in a fearful situation, but most of us aren't in our growth. It just feels so terrifying that fear feels. Fear feels really irrational. So I'm curious if you have any tools or tricks to help people really reframe what fear is.

Speaker 2: 27:00

Yes, thank you for asking that. I was just going to mention you know I often share with my clients that when we're starting to feel fear, we can look at fear as a friend, that we're really on the edge of the reality that we've known. It doesn't mean that we can't do it, it just means that we haven't yet. So befriend that fear. Know that when you're starting to feel, think about this.

Speaker 2: 27:22

There's always going to be a squeeze every time there's new birth. Think about babies going through the birth canal. Right, there's squeeze before there's new life, a chick is squeezed in its egg before it breaks out of its shell. So we're always going to feel a little squeeze right before new life, right before new birth, right before an awakening, right. So just know that, that squeeze that you're feeling, that fear that may be part of you. Know your next step is actually your friend. It's telling you that you are, you are moving into your greatness. So we can befriend our fear and know that, just on the other, courage is taking the step with fear, and so just take a little courage, befriend your fear, lock arms with it, know that you're on your green, growing edge, love that.

Speaker 1: 28:05

Yeah, you can't have courage without fear. That's right, yeah, Otherwise you're just skating along and then that builds up that muscle of you know, once you take a little leap and even just permission to take a little leap, I'm going to do some just one thing different and take a little leap and see how it goes. And it's like I survived that. So now I'm going to be braver to do something big. And then, when it comes to just figuring it out, how do you feel about? I need to figure it out, I need to figure it out. Carrie, help me figure it out.

Speaker 2: 28:42

Well, here's the thing, joya is when we're stepping into our greatness, when we're going for our next level of who we are becoming, we are never going to know the how. The how is not up to us, right. The how is up to our higher power, universe, god, spirit, source, whatever you call it right. And so if we just relinquish that control and recognize that, yes, we're going to be in action, we're going to take steps. But here's another thing in the Bible I love this story and I love using the Bible as metaphor for metaphors for life.

Speaker 2: 29:06

But back in the days, way even before Jesus's time, people would travel at night because it was hot during the day in the desert, right, and they were moving towards the land of milk and honey, right. And so they strapped candles on their toes in order to see the next step. And in the Bible God says I am a light to your feet, a lamp to your path. So they only see one step, and then they see the next step, and then they see the next step. So we just get to take one baby step at a time and that will get us to where we want to go, to our vision right, to our land of milk and honey to our Mount Everest, whatever it is. If we try to figure out the whole way, we will become overwhelmed and stressed and anxious and probably not get there. But if we just trust that we just take one step and then the light will be the lamp, the path will be lit and then we take the next step and the next step.

Speaker 1: 30:03

Right, that's beautiful. I love that story. You know, when I say this little practice when I wake up every morning, I wake up, I lay in bed, I feel super grateful for waking up and it's another day of life, like that's my first thing is like I'm breathing and I'm alive and I'm in my warm bed. What will happen this day? And then I always say may the light within me light the way before me and may I have the courage to walk it. I love that and I love that. You know, when you say yes, that you're. I believe that when you say yes and you it sounds like you experienced this too when you truly say yes to that, to the erupting beach ball exploding out of your life, you're like, okay, I'm just gonna let it come up. Then you're exactly right. The universe, your higher self, god, whatever you want to call it, there is something that begins to go to work on you to be able to express the purpose that only you can fulfill. On this planet.

Speaker 2: 30:59

That's right. I mean, you are now in harmony with your soul's calling, with your soul's purpose, and anything that you're in harmony with is what you will attract. I mean, we know that that's the law of attraction, right, that's the law of vibration. So, and if you want to talk about as a neuroscience side, but your subconscious mind goes to work on anything that you tell it all right. And so if I say, you know, I would love to be, do, have, give, create whatever that is, your subconscious mind is going to go to work, going to go find evidence of it to support you in moving in that direction. So you know. So I mean, it's just such a beautiful thing and yet people don't quite not, I shouldn't say people, but there are. There are people who don't understand this, and this is what I'm trying to share with people is our thoughts create our reality. And so I have a lot of women who say, well, I don't want to lose weight and I don't want to be like this and I don't want that, right, and it's like listen, first of all, we get to let go of the don'ts and start talking about the do's. What do you want? What do you love? Right, what do? Who do you want to be? And? And that's a much more sustainable overtime process. Right, the moving away from is not sustainable. Moving towards is sustainable. But yeah, it is just such a beautiful expression, and is it perfect? Absolutely not.

Speaker 2: 32:19

The challenges are here, though, to support us in our growth. It's to show us the path, and so I mean do I have challenges in my life? Yes, but yet I love my life. I absolutely love all the challenges. I love all the things that happen, because I know that it's just part of my human journey, it's part of my growth opportunity. It's how I respond to the challenges, it's how I move through the challenges. I mean, even in the Bible, it says, yay, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death. Well, guess what? The key word there is walk through, don't pitch a tent.

Speaker 1: 32:54

Yeah, and I love what you said about focusing on what we do want instead of what we don't want. And there's a way of reframing that, too, where people it's like oh, I want to lose weight, I want to lose weight, like you're still focusing on dieting, or you're focusing on the don't have Instead of I want to be healthy, I want to feel good in my body. I want to be healthy, I want to feel good in my body, I want to wear beautiful clothes, what do you want?

Speaker 2: 33:19

And the other thing about you know, I have a lot of women who say I want to lose weight. Well, when we say lose, we're actually putting a negative on it Because our subconscious mind is going to go find it later. Yes, right, so it's really releasing. I release the weight. I'm at my ideal weight.

Speaker 1: 33:38

I'm at my ideal vibrancy right In this day that I'm in, like that's the I think that's such a key is just stay present, stay in the day you're in because you hit another thing. I think that's so important and I hope that whoever people listening heard it was to not look too far ahead, to not try to have everything figured out. It is overwhelming and then we're going to be so. Oh, I just saw a beautiful thing. Oh, just dropped in. It was a quote that I saw today that said the opposite of faith is not doubt, it's control. That's right.

Speaker 2: 34:08

That's exactly right. Yes, when we try to control life, it's like we're trying to fit that square peg into a round hole, right, and this was me for years, and I would often say I was on the struggle bus of life.

Speaker 1: 34:21

And I would say that those words came out of your mouth, out of my mouth?

Speaker 2: 34:25

Yep, because I was trying to control everything. I was trying to get, trying to be happy. I was trying to lose weight, I was trying to, you know, be successful, and when I recognized that I got to like, get to let go of the word try and just be. And then and I love water and I love the, you know, thinking about water and I loved thinking about just floating in that beautiful stream of living water, that life, you know. And yes, am I going to hit some twigs and some rocks? Yes, but that's just the challenge, that's part of life's journey. But I'm in the flow of life now. I'm not trying to swim upstream, I'm just going with it and I'm allowing life to come at me and show me, you know, the beauty of life.

Speaker 1: 35:17

Yeah, oh, I love that You're just such a. You have such a beautiful soul, such a beautiful energy, so calming and certain, and you're always very professional. The way you present yourself is always really just authentic. Though it's not like you're pretending to be somebody that you're not, it's very authentically you.

Speaker 2: 35:35

Well, thank you, I received that and that means a lot to me. Thank you.

Speaker 1: 35:39

Carrie, where can anybody find you? Do you have any kind of? Do you have a book? Do you have any courses? What do you have coming up for women that they might be interested in? How can they find you if they feel like I really want to work with this woman?

Speaker 2: 35:50

Yeah, they can. So my website is uplevelyourlifeconsultingcom. On that, I have an upcoming webinar called Overcoming Overwhelm. I have retreats coming up. I have one in May and one in October. Actually, the May one is sold out, but I have one in October. They can send an email to me from there whatever works. But yes, any way, I can support anyone who this resonates with. And maybe you're just feeling like there's just something more. I have a lot of women who come to me and say you know, my life is really good. I mean, my husband makes good money, or I make good money, and blah, blah, blah, blah. And here it's presenting it. Life is presenting itself. You wouldn't have found me if there wasn't something more for you. So just lean into that, Listen to life calling you into something more and say yes.

Speaker 1: 36:43

Well, carrie, thank you for joining me today. What a beautiful conversation. It was so lovely and I really trust that somebody out there gleaned a golden nugget from this conversation. I'm grateful for you, grateful for you as well.

Speaker 2: 36:54

Thank you, joya, thank you for having me.

Speaker 3: 36:56

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