Joya: 0:00

Megan Sillito is not your average coach. For nearly three decades, she has guided thousands to tap into their unique genius, dissolving the limiting beliefs that hold them back and creating lives of purpose, joy and alignment. Megan's approach is revolutionary. She integrates energy, work, neuroscience and leadership principles to empower energetic high achievers to lead with confidence and ease. Her passion is helping you unlock your full potential and trust in your ability to create the life you desire. When you know how to trust yourself, the possibilities become endless. Megan, thank you for joining me on. We Woke Up Like this. I'm so excited you're here.

Megan: 0:39

I am so excited to be here, joya, I just adore you, and there's some kind of buzz between us. I've been wanting to figure out what it is, so let's just let's see what happens. Let's just let her rip.

Joya: 0:54

Well, you know that the theme for this year, my whole theme, is about liberation liberating your truest self and stepping into that fullest expression of who you are. And I love right here that you said when you know how to trust yourself, the possibilities are endless. So, Megan, let's just jump off with this question what role or how does trust factor into liberating yourself?

Megan: 1:19

Well, what I can say is that without it, you tend to do a lot of hustle and grind and force and control, and it's not like I think I actually achieved quite a bit not trusting myself. But it just is a lot of work, man. It's just so much work because the not trusting yourself creates a fear that then you have to try to overcome. And I think, for me, my learning to trust myself started with coming back into my heart and starting to remember love and take the layers of numb off the heart, and so I was able to start. I didn't know, I think in one way I didn't know if I could trust myself, but I knew I could trust love and I knew I had a lot of it. So that's the door I went in, you know, and I don't know.

Megan: 2:13

I think it kind of takes a lifetime, my clients, which is do you trust yourself to bring forth that which really matters to you?

Megan: 2:31

And I think that for me, because, like I've always known, I was here to really do stuff and change stuff and spark stuff Right, and so when I wasn't doing that, I felt like shit.

Megan: 2:47

I don't know if I can say that on this podcast, but I did, I felt crappy and so my whole process has been about, I would say, testing until I trusted and then moving deeper into that loving heart space. And then moving deeper into that loving heart space because I think that's freedom when you trust yourself to bring forward what really matters to you. And there's a difference between do I trust myself to make a million dollars and check the boxes and all of that. A lot of times that's not really aligned with your values and so people go for that kind of stuff. A lot of times that's not really aligned with your values and so people go for that kind of stuff. They sometimes get it, sometimes don't, but it doesn't happen in the way that they want. It doesn't give them what they think that it's going to give them. But when you ask yourself what really matters and you develop that sense of self that you start trusting yourself to bring it into being, I think that's what, for me, that's what freedom is.

Joya: 3:48

I love that and you know I would have to say freedom is trusting yourself and to know that you have your own back, like you don't self-betray yourself anymore. For me and for me when I think of self-trust only because I've struggled my whole life with myself that it was really that issue of stopping the self-sabotage, stopping doing the things that I knew were causing me to not trust myself.

Megan: 4:15

Yeah, for me, trusting myself is also about following the whispers like my intuition the whispers like my intuition, even when it doesn't make any sense, and being more loyal to energy than to agenda.

Joya: 4:38

Say more about that being more loyal to energy than agenda.

Megan: 4:41

Well, I think we can go okay, this is what I need to do. I need to do this, this and this, and then I'm a good conscious person if I do all these things and I do it in this way and we're being in the personal growth and development. We're being handed so many formulas right now. It's like I could just throw up.

Megan: 5:03

Over the years, I've had a lot of interesting points of view about what I think I should be doing versus what the energy is saying to do, and to me, that's me not betraying myself is when I listen to the energy, it's like following that, even if it doesn't make any sense. There's been so many times where I try to force a launch, right, and it's like not right, it's not the right time, it's not. You know what I mean. And as soon as I let go, it just comes together in this other way. Or there was another piece that I needed, or whatever. Or there's like okay, this is how I should eat is.

Megan: 5:44

But when I listen to my body right, that's a whole different. Uh, it's a following of what is and what's true, and the current that's running through me. Yes, that's what I want to be loyal to. I want to learn how to be loyal to that, even if it doesn't make no sense, because that's when I had the most fun, like the trip we went on to Ireland right, it was so fun, it was a goddess trip. Like I was like what the hell am I doing on this, but it was amazing and magical and perfect and all of the things you know.

Joya: 6:21

I love that distinction between like what the energy is with your intuition, and those energetic nudges not being the same as your mood You're not talking about. I don't feel like it. This is something.

Megan: 6:33

This is coming from a deeper place inside of you Learning how to distinguish between the energy, the alignment, and what I feel like or what I think I should be doing or I shouldn't be doing. Either that or I'll be exhausted. I'll make it work. I'll be in tune.

Joya: 7:00

It can happen, megan, let's talk magic.

Megan: 7:08

Oh yeah.

Joya: 7:11

I knew you were going to be excited about the topic of magic. So what is magic to Megan Wow?

Megan: 7:18

I have so much to say about that, but I think, simply, it's being connected to life force in a way that allows you to play and direct with the life force and the magic and the aliveness of the molecules that's all around us in the universe. It's kind of a dance. So what I see is that there's sort of this magic of the universe and the earth and it's all around us, and you know, that's what's really beautiful about our magical trips is that we get to step into some of those places where you can literally almost see and feel all of that Right, and so I think that there's a lot of people who believe in that, but they don't actually know that they actually have that and more, and so for me, magic is about cultivating that within myself and learning how to then connect it with the magic that's out there in a really beautiful like co-creative, collaborative dance.

Joya: 8:27

And is this something that you are able to teach your clients how to do?

Megan: 8:32

Yes, and it's kind of funny because I don't know how I do it exactly. You know I do.

Joya: 8:41

Well, learn about me. Well, number one, I've been around around you so I know how powerful you are. But you're because you are a magician literally you are a magician that you have that vibrational frequency of being a magician, and so people who are working with you are falling into your coherent frequency and it just brings them into alignment because you carry that vibration.

Megan: 9:07

Yeah, you said that very simply, thank you. Yeah, I appreciate that. I have an event that I've taken all over the world called Live your Magic, and there's a particular energy or frequency that I learned that I could tap or that I am. I think I've always been in it. Is that what you're talking about? Is there's this resonance, this frequency, but I bring it in a very conscious, directed manner into that space and then we play leapfrog, because whoever like lets themselves receive it. Everybody kind of jumps up with them and we kind of all do that together and what I've discovered is that what it does is it activates people's gifts, like there's, there's people in the workshop that will literally like open up to ancient gifts that they had. There was this girl one time that grabbed somebody's wrist and all of a sudden realized that she could tell what their pulse was, what their heart rate was, what all these internal processes, and she had this recall of being a medical intuitive in another life. And she wasn't wooey, she was pretty straight laced when she walked in the door. She was, she was pretty, like, straight laced when she walked in the door.

Megan: 10:24

I've been through a process of really owning some very strange things that I, that it just it. I can't. I can claim it in that it is me, but it's not like I went to school for it, or it just comes with. You know, press play comes with all of this energy, you know. So are you still doing the Live your Magic workshops? I am.

Megan: 10:55

I haven't done it for about a year. There's something else that wants to come through it and I kind of feel like it's a different frequency that I need to get to before I do the next one. There's just it's like right here and it's like OK, you're almost there, there's some other things you got to step into first. I'm like OK, but it's different than most of my other creations in that it bosses me around, you know. It tells me where it's going, it tells me when and for how many cookies, and I don't. It's not something that I get to say. I'm doing three Live your Magics this year. It's something it's, I believe, and my experience is is that our creations have consciousness, I agree, and, just like some authors, have characters that talk to them. Right, my Live your Magic is very. I have an interesting relationship through it. I co-create with it very much. It's my co-facilitator and it tells me, it really oftentimes is driven by pieces of land, areas that need energy and that have an energy to contribute to it.

Joya: 12:26

That makes complete sense to me resonance, that vibrational frequency of stepping into that liminal space, where you're in that space of magic, and that just being in that environment changes you somehow. Well, yeah, yeah, absolutely. So that would is live your magic. And what's the word? What's what? It's something's dropping in and I'm like slow down in my mind. I'm slow down so I can articulate it. I'm seeing, um, uh, is like uh, a gift, a package being delivered to you. It's like from the universe. That's like here, this is yours, this is yours to take it, it's not yours to own, it's yours to bring it to manifestation on the planet, but it is the boss of you and I totally get that. And I'm curious what the next level of it will be. Do you have any kind of inklings?

Megan: 13:13

I don't know if this is quite the right language, but it doesn't want to be a workshop, it wants to be an event.

Joya: 13:21

Yes and yeah, because I'm feeling like this is the year of experience. It's like no more talking about things, no more explaining things, no more books about things. It's time to like bite into the apple. You don't need to read about the apple, don't need to talk about the apple, don't need to study the apple. You just got to pick up the apple and take a bite.

Megan: 13:39

Yeah.

Joya: 13:40

And see what's there for you.

Megan: 13:43

And that's very much like some kind of a birthing into this deeper embodiment that occurs and again, I cannot put even an outline for this. There's some signature event, there's signature processes a couple that I have that I oftentimes do not every time and they change depending on the group, and that's part of it is that I'm delivering the message for that specific group, I'm being the channel for whatever that group needs to bring forth. So there's, I literally channel for three days, like other than those signature processes. So I'm not even in charge of what I say. I totally get it. It's just coming through, you know.

Joya: 14:53

Yeah. Have you always been like this since you were a child? Have you always been divinely connected and highly intuitive, or is this something that developed over time?

Megan: 15:02

Well, it's interesting because I think part of that trust conversation we were having that I really broke trust with that at some part, just going through all the trauma, drama of childhood that some of us go through, and I had to reclaim that at some point because I got very, very disconnected from it. But my older siblings describe me as like a little Buddha as a kid, just like you said, just observing what was happening in the family, right? So I do think I came that way, but I had to. I had to, I had to find it again. I got. I got myself disconnected from it.

Joya: 15:44

Yeah, as most of us do, who come in with these gifts, that they get disconnected and then it becomes the game of finding them again and learning to trust yourself A little hide and seek inside of you. Yeah, Megan, you said something in the beginning too that self-trust and redeveloping the self-trust in order to step into this beautiful gift of channeling and being present with what is and knowing just the right thing to say, like you're so good at meeting people right where they are. You said something about thawing out the layers of the heart and moving back into the heart. What role do you think the heart plays in being your liberated, truest, most authentic self you could be?

Megan: 16:36

That's a beautiful question, because I think that if you would have even asked me a year ago, like kind of what, what I thought my message was for the world, it would have been somewhere in the neighborhood of opening possibility, right, I would.

Megan: 16:53

I'm starting to think that my gig is love, you know, and I just have had a lot of wounding around that and I set up my particular circumstance in life to have that sort of torn at my birth. So I've been coming back to, I feel like I put a lot of protections around my heart. Also, I think a lot of sensitives do, like this world is kind of messy and difficult and harsh when you're super sensitive, right. So for me, the heart, I think, holds the seat of our desire, which desire holds the seeds of our purpose, of why we're here. I feel that the heart knows the future, you know, and what and I essentially, like if I were to say what I thought the role was it's the intermediary between spirit and the physical dimension. It's because, like, we can get really caught in 3D, right, and like, oh, what's going to happen, you know, or I see a lot of spiritual people like kind of not being in the body.

Megan: 18:20

body, yes, it's the body yeah, but I think the heart is such a beautiful bridge of spirit and body and and and mind. Actually I think it's, I think it's the true compass of like if, if we can listen to our heart, it'll tell us where we need to go and what's next. And it's almost it's so funny because I've spent 59 years protecting myself, but it's actually the very safest place to be is in an open heart.

Joya: 18:49

You know, when we have our hearts get hardened like that and protecting the heart and I know for me it sent me straight up here Shut down the heart, go to the mind, operate from the mind, use your logic, use your reason and get shit done, yeah.

Megan: 19:08

Yep, totally. And I had a very mental family. I had my older siblings where a lot of them had a very genius IQ like Mensa type level of them had a very like genius IQ like Mensa type level. And I actually did a medicine journey a few years ago where I literally relived the moment as a child where I was like, okay, if I start talking, I'm going to leave this place of being. I have a choice to join them in the mental world because in order to survive in my family, you had to be very mentally sharp. My father had his PhD in education. Education was huge and intellect was everything. Hey, like, if I'm going to join these people, I'm going to lose a piece of this, I'm going to lose a piece of my being, somehow, like I could see that it was that I literally had this moment of do I join them or not? But I was taken back through that moment of how, language, kind of partitions, the being oh my gosh, yes, it does.

Joya: 20:20

And you know, oh my gosh. Okay, I'm getting very excited about that because I've always been such a word nerd and language is so important to me and I was in a meditation recently, as I'm going through my own unfolding and my own heart thawing process of having my heart just opening more, and opening more and opening more, that I came into this meditation where I was like in the void and this thought dropped in that was like this is who you are. I was in this feeling of the void and it wasn't an empty void by any stretch of the imagination. It was full of life and expansiveness and so much love. And then this thought dropped in that said this is who you are, without the labels of who you think you are.

Megan: 21:10

That's delicious. You got a taste of you.

Joya: 21:14

And it opened up my heart. How is the heart a portal? What's your experience with that?

Megan: 21:18

How is the heart a portal? What's your experience with that? Hmm, hmm, well, I think it's again like you said it, it goes. It's the language of the heart, is energy, it's consciousness, it's not mind Right. And to me, if I'm connected with the heart, I'm connected to the entire universe. Like you can be in all places at once.

Joya: 21:48

Yeah, it's like a quantum instrument inside of us.

Megan: 21:51

Yeah, and I think it's interesting that you know, in the last decade they've come out with research that the heart has more neurons right in the brain. Of course this is actually command central and like I think so much of the destruction has come from this being command central. Yes, yes, gotta be like a little flippy flip, but I just, I just have this knowing that my heart is way more credible about the possibilities of my future than any part of my brain or psyche. Right, my heart is like go here, do this. Everything good comes from that right. Like, oh, that looks cool. Well, that doesn't make any sense. Oh, probably should go in that direction if that doesn't make any sense. But it lights my heart up, you know, and I think people spend too much time trying to rationalize and justify what the heart wants or what the heart knows, and then we just take longer and it's just harder to get where we're going.

Joya: 23:01

Do you feel like, when we activate our heart portal and we still use our mind, of course, we still use our personality, we still use our ego, but we use it in service of something greater than ourselves. And do you feel like, when you activate your heart center again, that you really activate your hidden, dormant, latent gifts that are lying inside of you, like your ability to channel the different clear senses that can come on board? Do you think that those two things are connected?

Megan: 23:32

Absolutely the last couple months that I've been really practicing. Practicing like, coming in and you know, and, and sometimes it looks like standing there in the face of something that's hard or harsh and staying open. Sometimes it's just from hi heart how you doing today, like, music, different ways, but I'm very intentional about like and and asking you know, I call uh, I call the universe G, so like, because it kind of covers like grace, gratitude the big G, the big G like I'm like G, like I don't know how to open this back up.

Megan: 24:18

This is a big, this is a big one, and it I feel like it's. I think that in the past, I think that I have the heart has been disconnected from other parts of me, and so sometimes it's gotten me in trouble in a certain way. But the opposite is also true what I'm connected to my intellect and not my heart. But there's something about um, like if I and and like as we're talking, I'm starting to this is this is sort of coming in. Which is that like.

Megan: 24:55

I think that part of what Live your Magic is waiting for is a more full access to heart, because magic can be grounded and balanced in a different way when the heart's online.

Megan: 25:11

So people are using magic that are disconnected from heart, from heart. That's when it can go sideways, or what we hear about like dark magic or magic blowing up in people's faces and stuff like that. I think that for me, it's like everything that's grounded in the heart is like getting connected to like a supernova engine, like it's turning. It can turn on and up and ground these higher frequencies, because some of our capacities have such a high frequency that we haven't been able to embody them fully yet. Frequency energy it also helps me trust the magic that's coming forward, because I know that if it's running through love and it's going to serve, it's not going to do any harm, and so I think that's also part of learning how to trust my magic is letting it run through the heart, letting the heart be the engine for it. But yeah, I feel like there's healing capacities in the heart that are beyond anything that we've quantified.

Joya: 26:28

What was your journey to thawing out your heart, from going from that highly intellectual creator to being a more heart centered creator? Are you still on that journey?

Megan: 26:40

obviously you said you were, so yeah, and I'm I, I think it's infinite, I think our heart, I think like it's, it's, like it's a portal to places and spaces and I think I will always be on the journey, you know and um, but what led me your question and what led me to it? Well, like, I just fucked a bunch of shit up, you know, like you did the, you did the fopo method of figuring life out.

Megan: 27:12

Yep, I did yeah, and I I chose some things that created a lot of pain for me and a lot of places where I justified shutting down, where I justified like fuck it, you know. But in the healing process I don't know when it was, but I was like I want to feel love again. Living in the intellect is like being a four-year-old given knives to play with Juggling knives. Being in the intellect without connection to the heart is kind of a dangerous place to be. Like connection to the heart is kind of a dangerous place to be.

Megan: 28:03

I think that even when I'm shut down, people would say that they feel love for me, that they feel even when I'm shut down, they feel like maybe they have more of an unconditional love experience with me than anybody they have ever met. So even when I think I'm managing it well, it's not really being managed that well, because it's who I am and I just noticed that it started like it just it just given me some kind of juice that I wasn't getting in any other way, and I've been uncovering, like in this process, like basically I created a scenario where my heart would get broken upon my birth, you know, and all the stuff since and all the recreations out of that, since were really about reclaiming that, honoring that and opening up to that magic, because the heart is. I think the heart is the most magic magic of all.

Joya: 29:05

It's so interesting how we shut it down too, and then how it's oh my gosh, it takes so much for us to open it back up again. And I'm wondering does it have to take so much for us to open it back up again? There a shortcut if you can break your heart closed, can you break your heart open?

Megan: 29:23

yeah, yeah, I like that, joya, I like that, yeah, because I I do feel it was interesting. Um, on christmas eve, I think there's a real magic around, uh, the holidays, like it didn't matter whether you're Christian or whatever. There's like some kind of energy that I feel, and it's not religious in nature, it's just like a zing. In Christmas Eve, I said, okay, gee, I said I'm going to ask straight up I want an open heart for Christmas. That's what I'm asking for Christmas. I want to open my heart. And within like an hour, I created this whole heartbreaking experience. I'm like, really, are you sure you know? Well, I asked, didn't I? But yes, that was actually truthfully, it was a breaking open.

Joya: 30:18

Sometimes breaking apart is breaking open, right?

Megan: 30:22

Yeah, tell us about that messy process, the breaking open process, the breaking open process. I received a message that was. It was asking me there's a. One of my favorite songs is I think it's Steve Winwood, I'm not sure it's called Higher Love, and there's a newer version that's very, very spiritual and like, oh like. It's very cool. I haven't liked any of the remixes until this one and I actually like it better because it's actually hitting the frequency of what I think Higher Lum is. But what I felt like happened because it felt like the hardest news. But I actually was asking me to love outside of possession of like what I think somebody should do or how they should return it or in what way they should reciprocate my love, because I think in this reality we have love and possession mixed up.

Joya: 31:32

Oh yeah, I love this. I love that. It's mine, it's my preference. It's like you mistake preference for love, yeah.

Megan: 31:40

Yeah, and I think that really pain doesn't have anything to do with love. I think we've also connected that up. I think love is an energy and a frequency that's always available under all circumstances, like I know because I've had that experience. Right, well, this should be really shitty, but all I can feel is love right now, interesting, right, and so. But I think why we shut back to your question about how can we make it easier to open up, I think it's learning how to under, like really getting that, like the pain.

Megan: 32:17

Pain is pain and love is love, but we collapse them, and in that collapsing is when we shut down. Oh, it's painful to love, it's hard to love. Well, actually, mostly what's happening is that love isn't matching our pictures, but it's not supposed to. Like there was no contract made that love would meet our pictures. You know, like I thought I signed something that you know, love is supposed to be pretty and horns and all the things. Happy, happy, happy, yeah, yeah, I just I feel like there I was called to a higher love through that moment of, oh, you're going to love me different, you know, and so, and I'm not, I don't feel like I've hit that higher love stride yet you know, but I know that that was an answer to my prayer of, like I want to live open hearted. And open hearted doesn't mean if everything fits my pictures and everything works out right and everybody does what I want them to do.

Joya: 33:39

I always say gee, gee answers prayers in ways you understand, not ways you want. That's what I always say. I'm like, oh, I understand exactly what this is. I know for me for a long time it was, you know, my prayer to have an open heart, my prayer to heal this or release that, that what would come up is what's in the way of that. It's like, okay, well, here it is. We're going to make it bigger, worse, stronger, so that you can't miss it. Now I try to choose not to have to learn my lessons that way.

Megan: 34:15

And you know something that I have seen in myself and this has actually helped me let go of a lot of judgment of, like, the size of the messes I make. I always say you can tell the caliber of person by the size of the mess they make. Because if you've got a lot of energy flowing through you, if you're like a real live circuit, then if you point that thing just a little bit off, you're going to create a flood, you're going to create troubles. If you're just a little drip and you're off, it's not a problem. But if you're big energy, it's like you create big greatness but you also create big messes. But that's actually how we learn faster A water finds the fastest path to the bottom of the mountain, it'll jump off cliffs.

Megan: 34:56

It will find the fastest, not easiest. The fastest path will find the fastest, not easiest the fastest path. And I think those of us who signed up to be sort of the conscious leaders at this time, I feel like we wanted to move as fast as possible into that consciousness, which meant jumping off some cliffs, which meant blowing up some stuff, because that was the fastest way that we could get to that next level, you know, and so I just have really come to really love my big play and all of the ways that in you know, it lights people up and changes the world and blow shit up. But it's all of it, you know, and but that's. I think that's part of that. Mess thing is that we're as conscious beings, we're choosing things that will give us the most juice, the fastest.

Joya: 35:57

Oh, I love that and, oh my gosh, I have made some really big messes being my little live wire self out there making stuff happen that didn't need to be happening. But I also have like and I love this conversation because you just helped me to have this whole like idea around like if life is your art right, and I'm an artist, yes, then my life is my art and therefore there are no mistakes. It's all just lessons and learning.

Megan: 36:30

My friend's father was an artist out of Princeton and one of the things he taught me about art he says, megan, he says you know it distinguishes like really, really high quality art. And he said it's actually not the perfection, it's the specific mistake that the artist makes in the work, the way that they make the. And mistake isn't quite right, but in terms of what good art is right, like that, the artists that don't do it quite right, it's that becomes kind of their signature Right. And I have, I've always, I've always remembered that is like it's it. You know, it's part of our work. Of art is the mess we make.

Joya: 37:32

And I was trying to look up just now. I'm like, oh my gosh, there's a famous artist and I can't think of who it was.

Megan: 37:40

And he was having his piece installed in a museum and they dropped. Able to get to this point? Is our sense of humor Like, if you can't laugh at the shit, like you're effed man, it's like it's too big and gnarly this tubular we're in.

Joya: 37:57

you know, otherwise I won't be able to survive what will be piled on me from such a young age Coming into the broken heart, just like you said, like the minute at birth, broken, yeah, yeah. And I feel like a lot of the lightworkers and yeah, way showers, lightworkers, people who know people like, yeah, you feel that right. You just know you always feel like you're here for something more, you're here for something bigger. That has always just kind of pulled you along.

Megan: 38:30

Yeah, and I think that's part of like being true to yourself and developing trust is starting to really follow those poles, is starting to really follow those poles and like, even when they don't make sense, even when sometimes those poles actually create some big mess, but you needed to do that to get to that next thing. You know, and like I think that's the other thing is that people, like they have an intuition about something and it doesn't work out how their brain thinks it's supposed to go. Like I had an intuition to do that and everything went to hell. Well, probably because everything was supposed to go to hell and that was like the fastest way for you to get to that other place, you know. And so it's like I think it's really important to find ways to get out of our interesting points of view about how we think it's supposed to go.

Joya: 39:26

Less rigidity, more flexibility. Be like water. I mean, you said I just love that analogy be like water, and water that stays put gets stagnant and mossy it gets mosquitoes. So we don't want to be stagnant water, We'll be flowing water. It stinks too. Megan, what do you have coming up? Do you have any kind of programs? Or I know you have your live, your magic, working its magic on you, but what do you have going on? Or your coaching abilities? Where can people find you? Because you're just so incredible.

Megan: 40:03

Thank you, love. Well, people can go to my website. It's just my name, megansilitocom. I'll spell that in a sec, but right now I'm running my new signature group coaching called High Frequency Performance Academy.

Joya: 40:18

By the way, pause, I love that name. Thank you so much thank you.

Megan: 40:26

Well, I realized that that's who I work with. I work with sensitive and and getting to what is high performance. For us, like the, I would say that traditional coaching is like a different kind of high performance Raw, raw, go, go, push, push, all that. But we're actually, I think, neurodivergence people who are more energetically sensitive. Our way to that is very, very different and there's really nothing out there that talks about that. Because if I, when I try to create something based on the formula that's mostly being taught, I just Same, uh-huh, yeah, and at the end of the day, you and I know it's like when my frequency is in resonance with that which I want or I am creating, then that's when it's occurring and it's more of an energy game than a push for structure game and it also requires a development of the nervous system in a different way.

Megan: 41:35

So a lot of people are talking about nervous system reset.

Megan: 41:38

Because so a lot of people are talking about nervous system reset and that's actually just step one, like that's just the basics of getting regulated.

Megan: 41:49

Then we have to develop resiliency and then we have to create robustness, because the energy and frequency that I'm here to bring, that you're here to bring in some ways has been beyond what our bodies could flow, Because I don't know if you've had this, but like so to take this into layman's terms, like boom and bust, where, like I'll let something really big come through and then I'll be like meh, pfft, oh, yes, oh, crap out for like three months and not kind of. I mean, I'm still doing my clients and stuff, but I'm not able to keep going. And I realized that that was actually a function of the dysregulation that I was in, but that it actually I actually had to create my nervous system to be able to run the higher frequencies so that I could actually sustain it and not like sort of crap out after. And I don't think that it was anything's been wrong, it's just that it hasn't been available until now. Right, I feel like we did what we had to do while we could do it.

Joya: 43:02

Yeah, and you're exactly right. If you think about everything, everything is energy. We are conduits of energy, we're running energy through our system all the time. You know, I'm thinking like when you plug something in. If I were to go plug something that needs a 220 volt wattage into my 60 watt plug, it's going to blow up. And the same is exactly true of us. And that's why, when we're asking for things like open my heart, help me to step into my purpose, help me to show up how I'm meant to be, showing up that the things you're doing that are not in alignment with that are going to show up first, so that you can change your behavior. But then, you're exactly right, you have to prepare your nervous system to be able to handle that new wattage, that new vibration of frequency that's coming through you, to be your new homeostasis.

Megan: 43:52

Yes, yeah, and I've used that exact metaphor. It's like if we put all the technology that we run through our houses now through a house from the 1940s, it would blow it up. And that's, I think, what a lot of us have been doing is that we've been accessing these high voltage frequencies but our bodies haven't been ready for them entirely. Like we're pulling them through as much as we can for as long as we can, but it's time. I think it's time to be able to live that high vibe. It's time to be able to flow that big frequency and continue the increase of the frequency. Not like you know, and so I'm. That's really the cracks of where my work's been going over this last year.

Megan: 44:38

I've been doing a lot of work around nervous system reset and then the resiliency, and then the High Frequency Performance. Academy is about actually creating your system at a level that it can run those high frequencies through it consistently and not force and push things and honor the neurodivergent self that we are, that we actually do and can facilitate multidimensional things at once. Doing one thing at a time, one step at a time, is actually the best thing for us. It actually slows us down, but we've been taught our whole lives. This is how you do now. You need to do one thing until it's done. You know it's like um no, that doesn't work.

Joya: 45:29

I will be so bored I will not finish it.

Megan: 45:33

Right, right, yeah. So that's one big thing that I'm playing with and and I'm bringing more things out. I've got a in-person retreat coming out in May, a high-flying in-person retreat, where we're going to be doing a lot of stuff to turn the system on, to be able to run those higher energies through it. I have a program coming up in about a month called Quest, and it's a program I've done before, but I am going to bring some live components into it. But it's a gamified creation program where you try on different characters as you create. Whatever it is that you're creating. So it's based on the hero's journey, and so every day you quest, you go on a quest from Peter Pan. How would Peter Pan create this? How would a billionaire look at this? Because one of the things that I find is that people try to create from the same energy that they always create from. Okay, let's get out the vision board. There's nothing wrong with that, but it's like you're actually in your personality too much, and so the ideas that you have are kind of the stuff you've already done and you can't create something new doing something you've already done in that way, and so it's a way to access different frequencies. It's a way to access different ideas and consciousness, and I just love character play anyway. So in this program you quest as yourself sometimes and as these different characters and you follow, you learn how to develop your intuition with following the energy.

Megan: 47:16

I call it G-Winks, so like I call it winks and wanks, so it's kind of I think that the universe is the biggest like hotter, colder game on the planet. So that's coming up and I actually have a gift for your group called. It's a little training that I did called Create Like a Ninja, and so it's just an example of creating in a different mind frame and a set of frame. But also because anything that you admire it's reflecting back some of your capacities, it's reflecting back things you have inside. So it's this particular training, because I have trainings on looking and activating gifts of all kinds of different types of archetypes, I would say. But this one is getting people in touch with their ninja. There's some of their stealth energies.

Joya: 48:17

Wow, you are just such a well neurodivergent. Oh, and, have you heard this term? I just discovered this term because somebody used it to describe me and I was like, oh my gosh, I didn't know there was a word. It's called multi-potentialite. Multi-potentialite is a person who can step in and do many things super well. So these are not people who are in a box just like you said. We're not step one, step two, step three like we. We came in a box and we tore that shit up and we're not even in a box anymore.

Joya: 48:49

It's, yeah, it's like what box, what box? So I'm just so grateful that you're out there doing this work and and really, as you yourself, this being this person that you're coaching others who desperately need you and to be taught and told that what they're doing is perfectly okay. You can be a high performance individual, you can be highly successful individual, and it doesn't have to look like how everybody else does it.

Megan: 49:20

I feel to share this. I worked with this guy in the last year and a half. He is an accountant but he's actually an energy mage and so when we turned that on in him, it's crazy he literally went from hourly toFO to like he literally generated $220,000 extra in that year that I was working with him because he went to his right operating system. People who are very magical, who have really kind of condensed themselves Like we talked about, like it's not safe. I'm going to go up into my head and I'm going to get shit done and I'm going to do the step by step, and it's actually not where our greatest gifts lie. It's in this like bigger energy that's chaotic and a little bit well, it is uncontrollable. Really, it's not something you can control, but how is it ever fun?

Joya: 50:23

Oh my gosh, Megan, you are just so utterly delightful Everybody listening. Please go visit Megan's website. You definitely have to go check out what she has going on. I myself might look into joining the High Performance Frequency Academy, because that's where I'm at and it's beautiful and I love being around other people who are on that same frequency. It's just different. It's just different.

Megan: 50:49

I love you so much. You're such a kindred soul to me and I think our priority for joy is something that I really connect with you around, because I'm just I you light me up, like I'm normally the one lighting a root, like lighting space up right, like I think you probably know what I'm talking about, but like you're like I get so much back from you, I'm like, oh yeah, go, go, go, more, more, more, more light, more joy.

Joya: 51:23

And the same is true of you. So maybe that's got to be what it is. It's like, oh, I could get my fiddle of joy and oh, yeah, we have so much fun and that's, yeah, I follow my joy. That's kind of my. My code for them I'm going the right way is follow my joy. Well, thank you, megan. I so loved this conversation. You're just such a one of my favorite people and I love you too, and I can't wait to see you, hopefully soon. Okay, thank you so much. Thank you, bye-bye, bye. Thank you for listening to. We Woke Up Like this. Your likes, comments, shares and subscribes help this content reach new listeners, and I so appreciate you and remember Luminous One.