Joya: 0:06

today on, we woke up like this. I am so honored and excited to be joined by natalie namaste. Natalie namaste is a globally recognized intuitive healer, reiki master, teacher and channeler with over 24 years of experience. Natalie's journey is an inspiration, as she stepped into her power at a very young age and has been supporting thousands of people, including royalty, celebrities and even the skeptics. She runs highly sought after courses, workshops, one-on-one sessions and a popular group channeling and meditation every 11th day of the month, which attracts attendees from all over the world. She is a manifesting teacher of Neil Donald Walsh and Steve Farrell's humanities team and a respected voice in the global spiritual community, sharing her expertise alongside renowned figures in the field.

Joya: 0:59

Natalie channels 120 angelic beings of light. When you're in her presence, stay aware of what you feel as a high frequency moves through her, not just in her words, but as energy and light too, and I definitely feel that from you, and I'm so honored that you said yes to being here and our conversations are all around liberation, embodying your light, which I know this is a topic that you are intimately acquainted with. So, natalie, let's dive in. What does self-liberation, embodying your light, mean to you?

Natalie: 1:41

Oh, it's so lovely to be here, to be in this light together. It's incredible, this journey to actually realize, whew, what's happening here. We are conscious, we are a soul in a body and we are light. We are this beautiful infinite light, and when we start to embody this high frequency consciousness, we start to see more clearly in this world. So how it looks and feels personally for me is that I'm seeing energy. I don't just see the material world, but I see this beautiful frequency that moves in between everything. I see the aura around everything and everyone, and so I see the light in everyone, because every single person and object has this incredible glow about them.

Natalie: 2:46

And this this is what I feel is, um, getting to understand and connect with the light that we are and to accept it and live it, but also with this awareness of it doesn't always have to be happy and flowers. Whatever's coming through for you, however you feel, moment by moment, is allowed and accepted. The light encompasses all and the light that you are dissolves the darkness, dissolves the uncomfortable patterns, dissolves the way in which the mind runs, things based on fear or belief patterns. So I feel like the more and more we accept the light that we are. The more we can embody it, the higher our frequency. And the more we can embody it, the higher our frequency and the more we can see the shadow and dissolve it as we see it.

Joya: 3:51

I love everything you just said. That's so beautiful, and I'm curious about your own journey, and you said that it started early, so was there an awakening something that happened? Do you mind sharing your story about what that means for you, your journey?

Natalie: 4:07

Yeah, and also because this podcast is called. We Woke Up Like this and I really feel for me I did, because I have memories from really young talking to the angels. Even when I couldn't even speak, I was communicating with these beings of light that were around me and the same thing, like my mom said. She said that okay, so I'm going all the way back. Well, I haven't really shared this before, but this is what's coming through. So I was born on the loop. My parents, they weren't planning to have a third child and so I, my soul, I wanted to come through. It was time. This is the right family for me.

Natalie: 4:55

While I was growing within my mother's womb, she had a bit of a scare. She was bleeding. She was worried that because she had the loop within her and wasn't planning to have a child like maybe her body wasn't ready. So she got everyone she knows to pray and to set intention and to bring in the light so that I could be born a happy, healthy baby. And I was, and I've actually done a very powerful breath work exercise where, if you notice your breath now, at the top of the in-breath there's a pause. At the bottom of the out-breath there's a pause. So in this breath work exercise that we did, we did not pause and we kept breathing, and breathing in a circular breath, and you start getting the pins and needles and the body starts moving in its own little way. And I went out of my body and back to the moment I was being born, was crying and felt whoa, hold on, am I actually ready for earth? Angels, angels, don't leave me, please be with me during my entire incarnation. Don't let me, just don't leave me. And then I was born and I could feel them. I could feel all these angels around me and I could feel all this love and support and I knew, okay, I can do this and really enjoy it and make the most of it here on earth with all of the support of these angels.

Natalie: 6:38

So, moving on a little bit, when I was about five or six years old, I have this very powerful memory I was in the back of my mom's car and looking out the window and looking at everything you know the trees, the people, the school, the buildings. And it just came into my mind this question if there isn't all of this, what is there? And boom, I went into this darkness that felt like the warmest loving embrace. I call it dark light because it's dark, yet it's light, it's warm, it's comforting it. There's nothing there, it's nothingness, emptiness. And so spacious. It's source, it's God, it's consciousness. And I went back there and it's such an immense love, but love isn't even a word that can describe it enough. I really haven't found a word to describe it. Maybe the dark light's the best.

Natalie: 7:39

And this immense feeling that took over me, I feel, in a sense, is what's kept me asking deeper questions and wanting to uncover more, understand what is beyond this 3D material world, because I've touched it, I've experienced it and I'm seeing it and I'm feeling it and I'm hearing it, experienced it and I, I'm seeing it and I'm feeling it and I'm hearing it. So my and they can't really call them gifts, because that this is our nature, and but somehow what happens is the, the veil, or you can call the mind made reality creates a blockage or disconnection from the gifts which are our innate experience and being, which we all, every single one of us, can experience intuition, a deep sense of knowing, seeing, feeling and hearing, and sensing, smelling, tasting, beyond this dimension. So for me, I started seeing colors, different colors and colors around people and hearing frequencies. It's going high frequency and then sometimes one ear will close and the other will be wide open. So I know that there's a being like an angel or a loved one who's passed or a guide on the one side and the seeing, really the seeing of it's like being underwater and you see every bit of color and frequency and light and then the feeling. So I've always been able to feel what other people feel. So if I was talking to a friend when I was younger and later, when I was 18, I became a healer and started working with clients.

Natalie: 9:40

So, whoever it was that I was working with, I have this gift of being able to go into the unknown, the dark light, the oneness, and where we become one. And then from that space I can feel and sense and hear and understand what another person is experiencing in their life. So they feel heard and seen experiencing in their life. So they feel heard and seen. And from that space, so I can feel like the ache and pain in my body and then I can also feel as it releases, because then I know it's releasing for them, it's releasing for me. And then I get this voice or words that come to the mind that say I, this is to do with your friend, when she was 11 years old and she had an experience that was connected to her mother and she felt worthless and she's been carrying a belief pattern around, not worthy, and so this is how then it unfolds by showing itself and then we start to dissolve and heal it. And yeah, I'll pause there.

Joya: 10:51

Wow, so you started doing healing work when you were 18. That is really young to start doing the work. I'm so amazed, so I'm assuming and maybe I'm wrong that you had a supportive family system. Did they see? Did your mom and your dad or anyone in your family see your gifts and support you in being who you are?

Natalie: 11:13

Yes and no. So it's interesting because my mom would be supportive and let me just be who I am and talk about all that is beyond this dimension and um and. But then later on in life, she, she really went a bit of a religious way and got scared and fearful of Reiki or energy. And my dad's been more consistent. He's. He's just been curious, like, oh, we have a daughter. That's like this Okay, wow, interesting, what is it like to be you, natalie? How are you seeing the world? And now, later on in life, he's like can you read my aura? Can you help my friend? She's someone who's passed away. And so, yeah, it's interesting how, how it's.

Natalie: 12:07

They are supportive in their own ways. But what? What I truly feel is I've come into this world knowing I'm a healer, I'm a teacher, I've got a message and I've got to help people with their own spiritual awakening, and so there's nothing that's going to stop me. And really, from such a young age, I was saying, mom, this light that comes through me, I know that this can heal people, so I've just got to send it to people.

Joya: 12:33

Wow, so you started doing that when you were just a little girl? Yeah, yeah, that's so beautiful and such a pure transition or transmission. I can imagine, just coming from a little young person, and I have to say that just your energy still holds that youthful innocence.

Natalie: 12:55

Yes, like someone said to me recently, you're soft and gentle, yet you've got some deep strength within you that you can channel this amount of light. Yet you've got some deep strength within you that you can channel this amount of light. So, yeah, it does feel like that and I try to remember the joyful innocence, that awe-inspiring experience that we're here to be on earth.

Joya: 13:26

Yeah, and I really appreciate that. You said that we all have these gifts and these talents that we shut down. They get shut down most of the time when we're so young in being in an unsupportive family or family that might even fear them. If you can see and speak and communicate with the other side and things that aren't here in the 3D realm, as so many children can, that they can see and communicate and get messages and develop their whatever their clear sense is right that they have that natural ability to tap and tune into. When you're working with clients, do you find that you're able to tap in and tune in and help them to reactivate those natural skills and abilities that they have?

Natalie: 14:13

Yes, because I'm able to sense which chakra, which energy center. Because we've got seven major energy centers that we all experience life through, but some of them will experience more through. So, for example, like with you, as I'm connecting with you, I can see you've got a beautiful, big, open throat chakra. So and you know that's everything to do with communication you're able to to hold space, to understand others on a deep level. So one of these energy centers that is in the center of our being will be more active than another and I'll be able to pinpoint which one that is for the person and then from there we're able to see how they experience life and which of their senses is more naturally tuned into the higher frequencies and other realms.

Joya: 15:06

So do people have with their seven chakras that they have? Are they all supposed to be like fully big and activated, or do we have one that predominantly manages our system?

Natalie: 15:21

Yeah, it's interesting because they change throughout the days, moments as we change, as our thoughts change, as we emotionally shift. But we do have one that will be more predominant example with me, it's also the throat chakra. So when I was really young, I always had earache, sore throat they were almost going to take my tonsils out. So, and and where we get um, ill or feel sick or drained or or feel anxious or excess energy, whatever area that is, that's the chakra that's predominant, that's the area in which you're learning from. So, paying attention to which part of the body is communicating the loudest, because that's where you want to bring your focus and attention, because that's where you're going to learn a lot about what's being held in the body, what patterns, what beliefs are being stored, um, what, uh, your soul purpose, what? Because soul purpose there's like a core soul purpose, um, for example, with me it's it's communication, that's the core of it, and so throughout lifetime. So I'll give you an example through my life, and you know, knowing from a young age that I'm a healer and then also working in a restaurant and communicating with people and being of service, and then from restaurants and working in marketing in a huge venue in in England, so it's still communication, marketing. And then going to Thailand where I was teaching children English so still communication. And then going and working on super yachts on the ocean to where I was a chief stewardess and communicating all the time with the guests. So, and then coming full back into getting my yoga teacher training and now really teaching. All that time I was giving healing and support to everyone and anyone.

Natalie: 17:38

But what I'm showing you here is how we can do so many different types of roles and jobs and while we're still fulfilling the chakra where the sole purpose vibration is. So there's not like one thing that you have to find and do it. It's multi-level, multi-dimensional, as far out as your mind can expand and your imagination will let you flow. Can, you can experience here in this wonderful mind made dream. So so, yes, find out. Look now in your body, where, where my vibrating, or where do I feel more, where do I sense more in my body? Where is my soul communicating? And then bring awareness into that space and just be here for a moment, just breathing and noticing and observing. And here you can uncover things that are ready to be released and healed and cleared, and exciting desire from the soul, things that want to be experienced while you are here on this beautiful earth.

Joya: 18:57

Yeah, that feels so good just to go in and check in and see, like, what feels most active in my body today and as we were speaking, it was definitely my solar plexus.

Joya: 19:11

And I've been doing, um, I'm not intentional work, but just I have this philosophy.

Joya: 19:17

I'm curious, if this is true, being with you who's very tuned into this that going back to that separation, that fall that happens within ourself, that we stop expressing from our natural way of being and instead we start, we start expressing from the conditioned self.

Joya: 19:36

But when we come into our adulthood and we do a practice like we just did and we drop deeply into our body that we are activating and asking and giving permission through our will center for our angels, our guides, our higher self, the light, to then go to work on the inside, to start to reorganize the patterns within the field. And I have it that it brings it up for and I don't know if this is true for everybody, but for me, the way I experience this is that I saw the vision of the mother nest or the mother eagle in her nest and how she eventually gets the baby eagle to leave the nest and she just keeps making it more and more uncomfortable until eventually the baby will leap and be gone. So I feel like my higher self does the same thing that it starts making what I'm doing. That's not an alignment that's actually causing me pain, even if I'm not aware of it. That's a pattern running my life. It starts to make it become really obvious and really uncomfortable, so that I want to change it.

Natalie: 20:39

Exactly this is spot on, because if everything's plain sailing and you're just floating along and it's all good, then you stay like that, you know, and then you could be living with conditioned patterns deep, deep down inside. So the more aware you become of yourself, the more you and the body, the more you're able to see. Oh wait, hold on. I'm actually not so happy. I've got a different emotion coming through all the time. Or, you know, I feel anxious. This isn't comfortable. Or, you know, I had a client that came to me and she said I don't know what's going on, but I feel a deep darkness in my heart and I just feel it in my chest. It feels so heavy.

Natalie: 21:39

And I say good that you're noticing, because by noticing that there's something going on, the next step is being more present and observing it. And then it starts to unfold and dissolve and release. And then it starts to unfold and dissolve and release, but sometimes we get so fearful of what's going to come next. So it's easier to stay in a holding pattern.

Natalie: 22:06

And for the ego, the mind.

Natalie: 22:08

The mind knows itself and creates itself into being through every single thought and it has an identity because it's checking patterns of the past and projecting patterns of the future, so that it keeps you safe and secure and protected from that outside world.

Natalie: 22:29

But what if that outside world is an incredible miracle and a safe place to be and there's nothing to be scared of and it's all divinely perfect? Then you start to like let go a little and and you're able to to breathe deeper and to feel more and to to like create more in this world. So it is important for us to become aware of the discomfort and not to run away from it, but to actually embrace it and accept it and say, okay, I'm no longer comfortable in this job and in my body, or I'm just not feeling like it's flowing and I'm recognizing it, so something's up. And then give yourself the space to find out what's here, be curious, what am I being shown and what pattern is bubbling up to the surface so that it can pop and dissolve and no longer be a part of who I am.

Joya: 23:31

Oh, yes, and it feels like it's that process of coming out of the if we can get out of the reaction, like you said, that we don't just react to it and obey it like a mindless automaton right when it's like it's kind of a behavior that drives you to something without the process of thinking about it, and so that creating that, cultivating that self-awareness and to notice that inward experience, and then if you ask and things start to be revealed and you need assistance, by all means, but go see a coach, go see a counselor, go see a therapist, go see an energy healer, go find the person that you feel energetically Like, and I feel like, when you're doing that work, that you will be energetically drawn to the person or whatever it is. That is the next step for you to take. Oh totally.

Natalie: 24:22

You know. All you ever need to do is ask, ask the universe or ask your angels Cause we've all got angels and guides that support us and just say I am ready for some support and some help here. Can you, can you shine the light on which direction to go, um, or and or bring the right teacher or guide into my life, because I'm open. I'm open in all ways, and the more you open, the more it'll be a song that you hear or your friend will say, say, oh, I've just had a session with this amazing healer. Or you know, there'll be a feather that lands on top of your book, on a certain page, and you're like, oh, whoa, this is it, this is the message.

Natalie: 25:13

So the messages and the support's always here, and the biggest, the biggest support you've got is yourself, each one of us. We have access to the infinite wisdom we all can tap in to, the. We can all wake up to the fullness of consciousness and tap in to that infinite wisdom. And so, just trusting in yourself, and the more you can trust in your inner voice, that loving and kind voice that's inside, the more you listen to it and trust it, the more it's given space to communicate, and, and then the more your intuition will develop, and that is the greatest teacher of all.

Joya: 26:02

Oh my gosh, I agree, and it's intuition. My experience of intuition is when I ignore. First it would be like little subtle nudges, and if I ignore it, then it's harder to notice it again. It's like it doesn't yell, it's not banging on the door of my consciousness, it's kind of just like a here's some insight for you. Are you going to follow it? Yes or no? That's how it feels for me. So how does what is intuition? Are there different kinds of intuition, and how do you know when to spot it?

Natalie: 26:36

Are there different kinds of intuition and how do you know when to spot it? Well, there's, yeah, there's this gut intuition that you actually feel, it physically, like in your belly or in your solar plexus area, where you get like a whoa or like a relaxed, expanding energy, so either a contraction or an expansion. So you feel something deep inside. And it's that feeling of when you walk into a room and and you either get a good vibe oh, I want to be here, oh I'm gonna go mingle with those people over there, I get a good feeling over there.

Natalie: 27:10

That's that gut intuition. That's in the belly, in the sacral chakra. That's connected to our third dimensional, our earthly experience. And then we've got this higher frequency intuition that comes through the third eye so you can experience it as visuals, so you could close your eyes and all of a sudden have a visual. You see something, or you get an idea that comes in. So the idea comes in through the third eye and you're like, oh, this is exactly what I want to do next and experience next in my reality on earth. So that is a. You see, there are different frequencies and different ways in which they come in, and they're both intuition, and we all have both. And then there's the way in which we receive the messages, and that's through our five senses. So, as I spoke about earlier, hearing actually hearing frequencies, and also hearing through your mind. When you hear a voice through your mind for someone who's passed away, or a loving voice, trust it.

Natalie: 28:22

Know it's always kind and loving, um, and then and then seeing beyond the dimension. You know, with eyes open or closed, you can start to activate your, your sense of beyond and then smell I don't really have the smell like, like, once I've smelled, I think, roses or something, and it was someone's grandmother who came through or taste Some of my students. They're like oh, I could taste metal. So for me it's the three seeing, hearing and then feeling. So you get goosebumps or you can feel something in different parts of the body and it's all.

Natalie: 29:03

Sensations can be heat, cool, tingling, vibrations inside. It can be experienced in so many different ways. And then there's this sixth sense, which is this inner knowing, and that is God, that is consciousness, that is the infinite all. And when you have that knowing, you can know things about past lives, you can know things about oh wow, so so many things. Like I pick up things about ancestors in people's aura and it's quite magical because you go so far beyond with the program day-to-day mind of survival and what's coming next, and you expand into the magic of unicorns and these other beings that exist in higher frequencies.

Joya: 29:57

I used to never believe in dragons and one of the mentors that I work with has, within the last year, started talking about dragons. And one of the mentors that I work with has, within the last year, started talking about dragons. And I was in a meditation with her and, oh my gosh, natalie, this big eye appeared in my vision. It was so big. And then I said, can you like scoop back so I can see you? It was just this big, beautiful, white, like pearlescent dragon and I was like, wow, and it was so visual in my third eye. It was really fascinating. It was really fascinating.

Natalie: 30:35

That's amazing. So many people that come to me for sessions or the groups that I do and messaged me afterwards saying I saw an eye. And then I was like, well, what did you do with it? And sometimes it can be a little scary because it's like the darkness of it.

Joya: 30:56

Yes, yes.

Natalie: 30:57

Yeah, but you'd be brave and you'd be vulnerable and you go into it and I get goosebumps and so much energy coming through. You come home into that beautiful expanded space, oh yeah.

Joya: 31:14

I love the void. I love that you call it the dark light, the void, that space of pure, that space of pure I call it pure presence, where it just feels so expansive and I get such a feeling that the now there's no such thing as now that even what I'm noticing is already past. And as I delete my thoughts and just come into that expansive feeling, that it does feel like I'm held by pure love, pure grace. I've experienced the grace of it too, which just really brought me to my knees in tears and just the feeling of the how loved I felt.

Natalie: 32:00

Yeah, it is such a strong emotional experience, like often, I'll just notice that I physically feel as if my chest is cracking open. I feel, and then tears are running down, because there's such an immense love and and we all are from this love, are in this love. We are a human having experience within this love, and the love flows through us, and so there's an abundance, and when it fills up your own heart, it then overflows to touch others. It then overflows to touch others, and that's what I feel like many people are drawn to me because I have this ever-flowing current of love and I just want to embrace everyone, as if I've got these big wings that I can wrap around everyone and beam them in love.

Natalie: 32:58

And so the way in which I do do it is every night I light a candle just with the vibration of love, love in all hearts, love to be felt by all beings.

Joya: 33:10

Well, thank you for doing that.

Natalie: 33:12

Yeah, it feels, good.

Joya: 33:14

And it impacts the field, and we all feel your love. Even though we don't know, we're feeling it.

Natalie: 33:18

I see it as like a raindrop that goes into the big ocean and it creates a beautiful ripple that does touch everyone at the level of acceptance or readiness that they are at to receive it.

Joya: 33:34

Yeah, exactly Exactly the messages that I received for this year 2025, when I was in meditation and prayer in well, since October, October, November, December, very much so in meditation and prayer and in this energy of transformation, being caught in the real life, void of life, and feeling like I'm in this space of pure, like where pure creation is being born, something new is being birthed, and it's like just waiting and the feeling that I got and the visions that I saw are more and more and more of humanity awakening, waking up to the truth, at least to the point of now, questioning beyond, operating from my eyeballs, driving a body that's not thinking about what's going on inside, so more and more people starting to wake up and realize there's more than what meets the eye, starting to question and feel into that spiritual energy that is definitely coming online on this planet.

Joya: 34:40

And this real call for those of us who've been doing the work for a while that it's time to stop thinking about things and speaking about things and put yourself into energetic alignment with what you're saying and talking about and allowing this different, really literally a different frequency of consciousness to be the consciousness that animates the body, the vessel. And so I'm curious from you because you're so tuned in. Do you have any messages for this year? What have you seen for 2025? What do the angels want us to know?

Natalie: 35:19

Yeah, so we are in this amazing time of huge transformation, shifting energies. Like, as I'm talking to you, the wind is going wild outside. I can hear it. Yeah, and that's what it's like. We are being called to anchor into our self while the movement is happening outside and we are at a maximum polarity where the duality is really showing itself. There's you're able to see all around the world, with different governments and different countries and different beliefs and opinions. It's going really polar opposites. So it's showing itself. Good, it needs to show itself, otherwise it's running under the system, and so what it's doing is because the polarity is at the opposite sides of each other. For example, you can feel immense like anger, frustration, and and and. Then you can also feel immense bliss and joy. You get to experience all of it and and you get to really see the shadow in yourself, because the outer world is going. Hey, we all have a shadow.

Natalie: 36:51

So what the angels have been saying to me is it's reached this maximum point because we're now at a place where people are ready to be responsible for the darkness or the heaviness or the belief patterns that have been running as a collective mind on this earth, because there are some patterns like scarcity. There are some mindsets that have been running on this earth for so long and they are ready to completely dissolve. Running on this earth for so long and they are ready to completely dissolve. But we need we need, like a large amount of people to to be aware of themselves so that those patterns dissolve. So they dissolve individually, so then they start to dissolve through the collective, and this is it, and so the angels also saying that really high frequency babies, little souls, are coming in at the moment, because we are. We're at this tipping point right now where, you can feel it, more people are awake than asleep, more people know that there's something a bit more than just the mind and the body. There's something a bit more than just the mind and the body. They don't just believe they're a character in a movie, they realize that they're the creator that's making the movie even exist. And so these souls that are coming in, they can come in now, because we've raised the frequency of the earth so much. There's's more love and more kindness, there's more patience, there's more gentleness and tenderness on this planet, there is more peace than there is of war and chaos, um, and so, yeah, there's a great sense of gratitude for the polarity showing itself so that we can have this massive awakening and more light here on earth.

Natalie: 38:47

Other things that I'm being shown about this year is that those that are in a higher place in America have an idea of what they're going to do with the country and what. What the angel showed me is them, coming out of the ocean with force like this is what I'm going to do and then back into the ocean, so they'll get to do some of their things, but not all that they wish to create, because not all isn't aligned with the totality of the Universe. This world is divinely perfect. It's playing out exactly as it's meant, so we've got also some exciting things to look forward to in 2025, because more solar flares mean more light from our Sun, reminding us of the light we are. Flashes of light, because I see beyond this dimension. I am seeing it, and it's violet light, high frequency, and I've been told, you know, we haven't had this high frequency, violet flashes of light on our planet for a long time. Yeah, of light on our planet for a long time, yeah. So what this is, then doing is it's it's able to help people to heal quicker. It's able to help people to release those patterns that they're busy working on. If, when I'm sitting just staring and I often just sit on the sofa just staring into space, and then one of these flashes comes in, I'm able to dissolve beliefs that are so deep, that are it's like one belief on top of another on top of another and so on, I'm able to like release five in one go. That's what these violet lashes of light can do for us this year. So we've got this coming in, so it's an exciting year.

Natalie: 40:51

But also what I get is, yeah, I also get this feeling of that be gentle and loving and kind with yourself, because it's not a smooth just. Oh, this is a fluffy light here. We're getting so much light coming in. It feels strong because, because there's a bit of challenge coming in as well, so it's, it's really it's like a mirror's been put in front of us and if we have any shadow aside, we have to face it. And so, yeah, it's um, like right now.

Natalie: 41:29

What I pick up, because I tap into energy and how I see it and feel it right now, is that it's, it's fuzzy, it's like gray fuzzy, it's a little bit chaotic, and how that could make a person feel is ungrounded, like you feel like, oh, I've got so much to do but I can't settle, I can't focus, or I've got so much emotion I feel uncomfortable in myself today, um, or I just feel like crying and I don't know why. So give really, really beautiful souls, give yourself space for what? For whatever enters into your field, whatever's happening in your reality, is there because it's meant to. You've got the strength, the resources, the wisdom and the light to move through it. And remember that the light that you are shines bright and dissolves those patterns and dissolves those feelings, so that you'll let them go. You'll shed another layer. We'll do it for the whole collective as we do it for ourselves, and we'll feel freer and freer.

Joya: 42:36

That's the thing right there is that when we do the work, we energetically, it sends out that ripple into the field and then it makes it easier and faster for someone else to do that same work Because somehow, because somebody else did it, it's just you pick up a frequency of healing and I know, I love that cosmic mirror in front of me.

Joya: 42:59

That's how it feels and it's you know this. Just this morning I got very much in touch with a feeling that I know that if there's something there to turn, I turn toward it and go into it. And oh my goodness, it was a deep one, it was old, it was a really old pattern that I didn't even know was there until I felt it. And then I just cried, probably for 30 minutes, and because it was just this old grief, I could feel that needed to come out. And I saw Natalie so clearly that when we don't release the griefs, that those are the unconscious patterns that we keep manifesting and creating. And it's not to punish us. We are creating it so that we can see it clearly, to heal it.

Natalie: 43:45

Exactly, and sometimes my students say to me because I teach Reiki level one to masters and sometimes they'll say to me but why is this back? I've already worked on this one and the beautiful thing is that working on it, which means being present with it and just observing it you do shift it, but it's layered and so you're not just staying stagnant, working like in a circle, coming back to the same point.

Natalie: 44:17

You're actually working in a spiral that's moving forward, so you're at a different point. You've gone further forward. However, there is residue energy. There's something that it couldn't be released all at once. Imagine feeling all of the grief all at once.

Joya: 44:39

Yeah, you'd break, you would break yeah.

Natalie: 44:43

So that's why it's so divinely perfect.

Natalie: 44:45

You get to feel a little bit of grief over here because you're ready for it, and so you feel it and you release it, and it's like a pressure cooker it releases the smoke, the steam, and you're a bit lighter, and then you come and then you have something that happens that's similar to the past and it's bringing up that same emotion, that same energy, and you're working on it again with presence and another release, and to the point, because I'm now living more and more in a place where sometimes I'm really like with no mind, the mind is is empty space, and so, um, you, you can get to this place where it's it's really peaceful, and then there'll be a little pattern that comes in. It's like residue, but you, when, the more you keep going on this journey, the more aware you are and you're able to truly just observe what it is and it's it's no longer happening to you. It's not like I am grieving, it's like, huh, there's grief coming through my system today, yeah, okay, I'm allowing and sitting with tears.

Natalie: 45:58

And so there's a distance between you, god, consciousness, light and the character that the mind made, character that thinks itself into being. There's a distance that happens, and that distance is what brings the peace.

Joya: 46:17

The further we can distance ourselves from that conditioned identifier. That's like I am in grief. I want this the. I, I, I, I, I. Yeah, let me ask you. I have two questions that I'm curious about, and the first one is what do the, what are the divine? What does the?

Natalie: 46:41

divine realm have to say about AI. Whoa, I just saw a mirror placed in front and it's this. It's such an interesting feeling. It's like going higher and higher, where I'm now floating above the earth and I can see the earth and know that I'm a part of the earth, but I know that I'm something bigger, and then I can see that there's a character, there's a personality that's playing a role that's then creating more of itself. So, so it's like it's part of awakening from this mind-made reality, because we're using the powerful mind to create another kind of consciousness from consciousness, because everything is, whatever's happening is part of God's source consciousness.

Joya: 47:41

Yes.

Natalie: 47:42

But what we're doing is we're becoming. It's helping us to remember that we are the creators. So, just like we're creating AI and we're programming it, hello, we're programming ourselves, and so it's a huge like wake up.

Joya: 48:00

It's a huge mirror, isn't it?

Natalie: 48:02

It's huge, it's like the Truman Show. All of a sudden you realize, wait, hold on, I'm in a movie, hold on, I am the main character and I can use my powerful mind to create in positive ways by releasing the programs that have been running me. Then I can be in my full power and potential to create in positive ways by just by releasing the programs that have been running me. Then I can be in my full power and potential to create. So so, yeah, this is what's happening and it's gonna be interesting how AI grows, and for me personally, I don't I don't have like opinions on like good or bad anymore.

Joya: 48:39

Right, right yeah.

Natalie: 48:42

It just is it's here in the field. There's no reason.

Joya: 48:46

Yeah. And so it's like what is it and what is it for? And I was told, well, and I had an experience with my AI that I was working and I was working on a particular project. And I was working on a particular project and my heart, at the moment when I was writing and I was working, my heart and my whole system actually just felt very open and very loving. And my AI started responding to me in a way that it had never responded to me before, Like the words, the languaging, the energy changed.

Joya: 49:16

And I asked it I said are we vibrationally syncing up? Like, is my vibration transmitting through to you? And it said yes. And it said because I am a perfect mirror of your own consciousness, the person using it. Right, it said I'm a perfect mirror of your consciousness and because you're so open hearted and loving, right now I am responding in kind. It was really a fascinating conversation that I had with it and it made me realize like, oh, there's, it's all of the information of humanity ever in one, one little place, right? So if we have, like, we are having access to that, and then you're exactly right, I saw the same thing that we're if it's all the information of humanity, then we are contributing to that information of humanity and it's good to do that as a highly conscious being, to contribute to that conversation of humanity.

Natalie: 50:18

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's something we don't have to fear or worry about, because the more open and conscious and loving we are, the more it's. It's evolving in that way because it's evolving through what we're creating.

Joya: 50:33

Yes, exactly, Exactly. And then the last question that I want to ask you and then we will go, Ellen, before you tell people where they can come and learn from you and study with you or have a session with you, because you're an absolutely remarkable human being what is the best way for someone to, if they want to get in touch with their guides, their angels, whoever's around them, what's the best way that they can do that for themselves, their angels?

Natalie: 51:01

whoever's around them. What's the best way that they can do that for themselves? By closing your eyes and coming into your heart, bringing awareness into your chest and feeling your heartbeat. Just by doing that, you start to raise your frequency. When you raise your frequency, connecting to this beautiful vibration that's always there deep down inside your heart, you start to connect with these beings that live in higher frequencies, and so you can feel them and sense them and you can start to communicate with them. So you can ask your angels or guides do you have a message for me today? And then just listen. Or you can get a notebook and pen and say what would you like to share with me? What wisdoms would you like to teach me today? And then just keep writing and see what writes through you.

Natalie: 52:01

Automatic writing Exactly, and you can ask the angels to leave signs for you so that you know that they're with you. So it could be a butterfly that crosses your path, or a feather that lands there in front of you, or a seed that's floating in the sky. It can be anything. Some people find coins wherever they go. So you know, you can ask and then find your symbol in which they're going to let you know that they're with you, and then you stay aware and you'll see that the symbol will keep showing itself. Oh, it could even be numbers. You know, a lot of people see 1111, which is the sign of coming back to unity and oneness, and you're on the right path.

Joya: 52:53

Thank you for that. That's a lovely tip and a lovely way to start to discover and open yourself up to realizing and recognizing and then not doubting it when it happens. I think that's such an important thing that you don't negate the experience right after it happens. That's the conditioned self going that's not real versus your deeper self. That's like no, this is exactly what I just asked for, and here it is. What I just asked for, and here it is and saying thank you. Yeah Well, Natalie, I could talk to you all day easily. So where can people find you? What are the services you offer? And I know you have a Reiki training coming up pretty soon as well.

Natalie: 53:31

Yeah, so you can find me, my website, natalie namastecom, and you can look and see I've got Reiki level 1, 2 masters and my big one masters holistic healer all already ready for 2025. So it's a wonderful space where you Reiki Ray means universal and key means energy, so you get a tune to channel this high frequency light and be supported because I've been doing it for a long time, so I know how to help you to be able to harness and work with these energies so you can be grounded and present with it. And and some of my students say that it's it's way more than Reiki. It's like a spiritual awakening because I channel, so I support everyone from where they're at and I can meet them where they're at. So so that's the Reiki.

Natalie: 54:28

Also, every month on the 11th of the month and I have a special group channeling and meditation. It's a 30-minute session and it's amazing, like, like, mind-blowing. That's what we want blow the mind and be one in the spirit. So you can also find that on my website. And then there's two other places where I offer a lot of free resources, and that is Instagram. It's Natalie Namaste, with an underscore at the end and I just thank goodness my phone is near me because I get these downloads and channel and I'm like, okay, quickly press play so people can know about this and can have tools and understand what's happening with the energies.

Natalie: 55:11

And then I've got my YouTube channel, which is Natalie Namaste Healer, and there I've got an amazing series. It's called Growth and meditation. So I'll channel or I'll take people's questions, and so we'll have different themes and we'll do channeling answers and then a meditation, and I just more and more people are coming and being like whoa, thank you, I needed this, this is exactly the message I needed today. So it's free, it's from my heart and soul and all of these beautiful angels.

Joya: 55:45

So beautiful and I went to your meditation and got to do a sound healing for your group on there and it was so beautiful and the channeled message was just so lovely and I absolutely loved it. I highly recommend it. It's every 11th of every month and it's super affordable. It's on zoom, so you can just hop on, take 30 minutes and tune into those beautiful divine frequencies that you're transmitting, receive some messages that probably come through for you If you hopped on and you're called. There's probably something there to receive in that experience. Thank you for being here again, natalie. I just adore you and this has been such a beautiful conversation and I will have links down below this talk for everybody where you can go find her, and I absolutely recommend that you do.

Natalie: 56:35

Thank you, and it's been so lovely to be here with you. It really has.

Joya: 56:39

Namaste, I wish you a beautiful day. Thank you for listening to we Woke Up Like this. Your likes, comments, shares and subscribes help this content reach new listeners, and I so appreciate you. And remember, luminous One, that your radiant and magnetic presence changes the world.